Count clicks from fully closed, with the burrs just touching. The standard C40 has 12 clicks per turn. The Red Clix upgrade doubles that, so its numbers run about twice as high.
Settings by brew method
| Method | Setting (clicks) | As the source puts it | Source |
|---|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 10 to 15 | 10 to 15 clicks for espresso | thecoffeefolk.com Maker |
| Moka pot | 15 to 20 | 15 to 20 clicks for a Bialetti | thecoffeefolk.com Maker |
| AeroPress | 14 to 24 | AeroPress 14 to 24 | coffeechronicler.com Reviewer |
| Pour-over / V60 | 22 to 32 | 22 to 32 clicks for a pour-over filter | thecoffeefolk.com Maker |
| French press | 25 to 34 | 25 to 30 for cupping and French press (Chronicler 30 to 34) | thecoffeefolk.com Maker |
| Cold brew | 30 to 40 | Cold brew 30 to 40 | honestcoffeeguide.com Reviewer |
These are starting points. Beans, roast, water and your own taste all move them, so start in the middle of the range and adjust one step at a time.
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About the Comandante C40
- Type
- Hand grinder
- Burrs
- Conical, 38 mm
- Adjustment
- Stepped (internal clicks)
- Step size
- about 30 µm per step
Dialling in from here
- Sour, thin or fast? Grind finer. Why coffee tastes sour
- Bitter, dry or slow? Grind coarser. Why coffee tastes bitter
- Espresso: how to dial in. Filter: pour-over grind size.
Compare with other grinders in the grind size chart.
What reviewers found
The hand grinder most others get compared with. People share settings for it in clicks from zero, and Lance Hedrick used one for his 2020 US Brewers Cup routine 1:31. Many newer hand grinders use a version of its burr design 25:00 4:35.
Specs
| Type | Hand grinder, conical burr (Nitro Blade, a hexagonal-style cone) 29:38 |
| Burr size | Comandante quotes 38 mm, measured at the outer collar, so sizes don't compare directly across brands 5:06. Another listing gives 40 mm 29:38. |
| Adjustment | Internal clicks with no external numbers, so you count clicks from zero 29:38 |
| Microns per step | About 30 µm per click as standard, or 15 µm with the Red Clix upgrade 29:38 18:50. The 30 µm figure is burr gap. Lance Hedrick works the travel out at roughly 42 to 45 µm of vertical movement per click 8:54 6:07. |
| Zero / range | Winding back to zero takes about 60 clicks, though that figure is rough 29:38. |
Starting settings
These are the settings each creator gave, measured from their own grinder's zero. Use them as a starting point.
| Method | Setting | Context | Confidence | By | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pour-over | about 24 clicks | 15 g dose, conical brewer, 206 °F water, 40 g bloom then two 90 g pours. This was his 2020 US Brewers Cup routine, with fines taken out mid-brew | approx | Hedrick | 1:31 |
| Pour-over | 25 to 30 clicks | What top competitors tend to use, according to him, a coarse grind for this style of burr | approx | Hedrick | 4:04 |
| Pour-over | about 25 to 30 clicks (start near 30) | His one-cup V60, 15 g to 250 g, light roasts. Clicks counted from zero, then adjust by taste | approx | Hoffmann | 3:35 |
| Pour-over | around 20 clicks | His usual filter setting. It takes about 45 s to grind a cup | approx | DGC | 8:19 |
| Pour-over | start around 30 clicks | A starting point for a typical coffee, then go finer or coarser by taste | approx | Hoffmann | 4:35 |
| Pour-over | 22 to 24 clicks | His Hario Switch recipe, roughly K-Max 6 | stated | Chronicler | 1:31 |
| Immersion | 20 clicks | French press with a paper filter added to the plunger | stated | Chronicler | 3:35 |
| Pour-over | 20 to 22 clicks | Everyday Hario Switch recipe, medium-fine | stated | Chronicler | 3:39 |
| Pour-over | 23 to 28 clicks | Showcase V60 recipe. Depends on the beans, the grinder's calibration and the paper | stated | Chronicler | 5:55 |
| Espresso | 9 to 12 clicks | His espresso range on the MK3, by machine and bean. One click moved the shot by about 10 s | stated | Chronicler | 8:44 |
| Pour-over | 25 clicks | The kind of setting people share in recipes | approx | Chronicler | 3:06 |
| Espresso | usually 7 to 13 clicks | Typical espresso range on the MK4 Nitro Blade | approx | ECT | 6:10 |
| Pour-over | 18 to 30 clicks | Typical filter range on the MK4 Nitro Blade | approx | ECT | 6:10 |
| AeroPress | 20 to 22 Red Clix (about 10 to 11 standard clicks) | Espresso-style inverted AeroPress, 18 g of an espresso roast, 20 s stir, about 1:10 to 1:20 steep | approx | ECT | 1:02 |
| Immersion | 30 clicks | Hario Switch (ceramic) with standard Hario papers, medium-fine | stated | Quan | 5:12 |
| Immersion | about 16 clicks | Glass Hario Switch with Cafec T90 papers, fine | approx | Quan | 8:45 |
| Immersion | 30 to 34 | MK3, 2020, clicks from zero. A reader-submitted figure, and the chart treats every setting as approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Pour-over | 20 to 32 | MK3, 2020, clicks from zero. A reader-submitted figure, and the chart treats every setting as approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| AeroPress | 14 to 24 | MK3, 2020, clicks from zero. A reader-submitted figure, and the chart treats every setting as approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Moka | 12 to 15 | MK3, 2020, clicks from zero. A reader-submitted figure, and the chart treats every setting as approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Espresso | 9 to 12 | MK3, 2020, clicks from zero. A reader-submitted figure, and the chart treats every setting as approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
Cup profile
- Very good clarity for a hand grinder, and consistent 29:38.
- The particle spread is wider than on burrs made just for filter. That gives complex cups at modest extractions, but the cup falls off if you push towards 24 to 25% 4:04.
- It leans towards clarity, where a Kinu leans towards sweetness and body. Lance Hedrick compares it to SSP against Gorilla Gear burrs 14:26.
- The 1Zpresso K series tastes almost the same 9:11 18:50, and the K-Ultra is a little cleaner and less astringent 12:01.
Strengths
- So many people own one that click settings are easy to compare 29:38.
- The Nitro Blade burr lasts 29:38.
Weaknesses
- No external numbers 29:38.
- Expensive for what it does 29:38 18:50.
- The burr floats rather than being fixed to the axle 18:50.
- The bigger C60 makes more fines, because the same design at a larger size has wider gaps and feeds faster 18:50 20:20.
Verdict
In 2022 Lance Hedrick summed it up as good at everything and best at nothing 29:38. By 2023 he pointed out that the 1Zpresso K series gives the same cut for about a third of the price 9:11. His 2024 hand grinder tier list gave the C40 a B (a C once price comes in) and the C60 a B 18:50.
James Hoffmann's take
- In his 2019 hand grinder showdown he called it the grinder that set the bar at the high end. It made his favourite espresso of the group and an easy, very good filter cup. His gripes were a plastic link between the lid and the crank, beans bouncing out, and a glass catch cup that feels risky for travel 6:43.
- In a 2024 particle size test and blind V60 tasting it made fewer fines and fewer boulders than a Kingrinder P1 or Hario Slim and gave the most balanced cup. The gap in quality was smaller than the gap in price, though 3:03.
Daddy Got Coffee's take
- 2024: still the benchmark for a balanced, flattering filter cup. At espresso, though, each 30 µm click moves the shot time by 8 to 12 s. Red Clix brings that down to about 4 to 6 s but doesn't make the grind any faster 1:01 9:21.
- In his 2026 owner survey hardly anyone reported a hardware failure and people were happy with the service. It still had the highest churn, often driven by online hype. It's his go-to filter grinder along with the Pietro 2:03 7:11.
Kyle Rowsell's take
- 2022: in his blind filter test it came very close to the 1Zpresso X-Pro. The plastic internal parts are his main gripe 5:05.
The Coffee Chronicler's take
- 2021 (MK3): elegant, analytical cups with no astringency in espresso. It sieved slightly more evenly than a JX, a stock DF64 or a Timemore Slim, though well behind a Wilfa Uniform with SSP Brew burrs. On the downside, an 18 g espresso dose takes about 1:10, the body is wide, chips get stuck under the handle, the plastic stabiliser rattles, the glass jar is fragile and the espresso clicks are coarse. He still rates it but finds it pricey, and for daily espresso he'd pick a faster hand grinder or an electric one 11:16 8:44.
- 2025 (Mk4): balanced and relaxed, with less citrus than a K-Ultra. The huge library of shared recipes is its strength. The dial under the burrs, the wide body and the slow, coarse espresso steps without Red Clix now feel dated. He calls it a fine pick that's no longer a top performer 33:51.
European Coffee Trip's take
- 2020 (Nitro Blade, against a Hario and a Timemore): the most even grind by eye and the best cup of the three. It was clean, juicy and crisp with sweetness and body, but heavy for travel, at about €250 3:07.
- 2022 (MK4): zero is where the handle locks, and the first anticlockwise click that turns freely is click 1. That should line up across well-kept grinders, so recipes carry over. Red Clix doubles the steps, MK3 and MK4 parts swap between each other, the polymer jar is tough and the burrs have a lifetime warranty. The plastic lid on the handle is the weak spot 2:36.
- 2026 (Lab Series burrs, 10 g tests at 25 and 10 clicks): the Nitro Blade is still the all-rounder most people need. It made slightly more fines on a light Kenyan and struggled to feed huge Pacamara beans. The Tiger Shark slices through dense light roasts easily and was the presenters' favourite, but it often stuck at 10 clicks. The Hammer Head takes big beans quickly but is the roughest at espresso size 3:37 4:37 5:08.
Notes
- 1Zpresso quotes burr movement per click and Comandante quotes burr gap, so you can't convert settings between the two brands with simple maths 6:12.
- A motorised C40, running at about 180 rpm by Lance Hedrick's estimate, tasted slightly better to him than the Lagom Mini. The lower speed may explain it 5:06.
Sources
- James Hoffmann: The Ultimate Hand Grinder Showdown (2019-04-23)
- European Coffee Trip: Cheap vs Expensive Hand Grinder: What’s The Difference? (2020-11-08)
- Lance Hedrick: MY 2020 USBrC ROUTINE: The Role Fines Play in Extraction (2021-05-21)
- The Coffee Chronicler: Comandante C40 review (2021-06-06)
- European Coffee Trip: The AeroPress Espresso: Fellow Prismo vs Joepresso Review (2021-11-06)
- Lance Hedrick: BEST FILTER COFFEE GRINDER?: Is the Fellow Ode Hype or Reality? (2021-12-17)
- Lance Hedrick: A BUDGET GRINDER THAT CAN DO IT ALL?: Review of the Option O Lagom Mini (2022-01-15)
- European Coffee Trip: The Ultimate Comandante Grinder Guide (History, Cleaning, Accessories & more!) (2022-05-16)
- Lance Hedrick: SPTK38G- The Latest of Grinder Trends (2022-06-09)
- Lance Hedrick: BEST FILTER HANDGRINDER: 1ZPRESSO ZP6 (2022-08-19)
- Kyle Rowsell: NEW 1ZPRESSO X-PRO REVIEW | RIP Expensive Hand Grinders? (2022-10-25)
- James Hoffmann: 1 Cup V60 Part 2: You Had A Lot Of Questions! (2022-11-30)
- Lance Hedrick: 1ZPRESSO 1XPLAINED: Review of the 1zpresso Lineup (feat ZP6 Special!) (2022-12-03)
- Lance Hedrick: NEW FELLOW OPUS GRINDER REVIEW (2023-02-14)
- The Coffee Chronicler: The ultimate Hario Switch RECIPE: A consistent cup that will blow your mind (2023-02-26)
- The Coffee Chronicler: NEW RECIPE: French press for SUPERTASTERS (2023-08-23)
- Lance Hedrick: BRIEF GUIDE TO BUYING A HANDGRINDER: Which is best for you with Burr Man (2023-11-29)
- Brian Quan: HARIO SWITCH RECIPES: Sweetness and Acidity Forward: Brewing Coffee at the Race Track (2024-03-03)
- James Hoffmann: The KinGrinder P1: Why A Cheap Hand Grinder Has Me A Little Excited (2024-05-13)
- Daddy Got Coffee: Comandante C40: Is It Actually Worth It?? (2024-09-21)
- Lance Hedrick: Hand Grinder Tier List (2024-10-02)
- Lance Hedrick: Too Little, Too Late for Relevance? Baratza ESP Pro Review (2025-07-16)
- Lance Hedrick: Can Handgrinders Beat Electric? Espresso Edition (2025-08-07)
- The Coffee Chronicler: Buying a manual grinder? Here's what I would do... (2025-11-17)
- Daddy Got Coffee: Everyone Is Replacing The Most Reliable Hand Grinder (2026-04-25)
- European Coffee Trip: Comandante C40 Lab Series Explained: Nitro Blade vs Tigershark vs Hammerhead Burrs (2026-05-18)
- The Coffee Chronicler: How I actually brew pour over at home (2026-06-21)
- Lance Hedrick: GUIDE TO HANDGRINDERS: Watch Before Buying (2022-06-15)
- Asser Christensen, The Coffee Chronicler (website): Grind Size Chart & Database (2025-08-29)
Summarised in our own words from the creators' videos, with every point linked to the moment it comes from. Notchbook isn't affiliated with or endorsed by any of these creators, so please watch the originals for full context. Sources