Specs
| Burrs | Stock Italmill burrs. Options include SSP High Uniformity, SSP Brew, and Fiorenzato and Mazzer filter sets 25:30. Lance Hedrick's V2 came with SSP multi-purpose (Red Speed) burrs 15:50 |
| Dial | A dial indicator window and a wave spring. Loosen the collar to move zero 25:30. The V2's numbers run to 90 but you can go past 15:50 |
| Motor | 550 W AC at about 1400 rpm, or 1200 to 1400 on the V2 25:30 15:50 |
Starting settings
No one has shared grind settings for it yet.
| Method | Setting | Context | Confidence | By | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Immersion | 75 to 85 | 2022, dial scale. Reader-submitted and approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Pour-over | 50 to 75 | 2022, dial scale. Reader-submitted and approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| AeroPress | 35 to 50 | 2022, dial scale. Reader-submitted and approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Moka | 25 to 35 | 2022, dial scale. Reader-submitted and approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
| Espresso | 10 to 25 | 2022, dial scale. Reader-submitted and approximate | approx | Christensen | grind size chart |
Cup profile
- The stock burrs are creamy, heavy and sweet, with as much texture as a Niche or more and lower clarity. They improved with use 25:30.
- 83 mm HU burrs are sweet with a big body and still enough clarity for fruit. They're creamier than 64 mm HU in an Ode, and better at filter too 25:30.
- The V2 with multi-purpose burrs is good at filter and espresso 15:50.
Strengths
- Never stalls, holds back about 0.1 g with bellows, and is often well aligned 25:30 6:42.
- The V2 adds an ionizer and a better chute 15:50.
Weaknesses
- The tapered chute clogs, and the declumper is useless. Lance Hedrick takes it out 25:30.
- The V2 sprays a little, and chaff collects at the chute 15:50.
Verdict
In January 2023 Lance Hedrick called it the best grinder under $1,000 25:30. By September 2023 he slightly preferred it to the Niche Duo 15:50. His 2024 tier list gave it a B 18:52.
Daddy Got Coffee's take
- In 2023 he called it an affordable 83 mm platform, with an all-round burr that keeps clarity while adding body. It holds back 0.1 to 0.2 g with the bellows, and it's large and loud 0:37 3:40.
Kyle Rowsell's take
- In his 2022 first look it made traditional, chocolatey, textured espresso with good clarity, and clean filter with more fines than ideal. Turbo shots extracted poorly. The dial is readable with a resettable zero, and retention is 0.1 to 0.2 g. The alignment was clearly off, though, and it lurches when it starts. It cost $700 1:03.
- In 2023 the V2 brought tighter tolerances, a new declumper and a plasma generator. It made juicy, textured espresso and was the best espresso-only value around $600. It's still messy, and he wouldn't choose it for light-roast filter 5:27.
The Coffee Chronicler's take
- In 2022 he found it a big step up from the DF64, with 0.1 to 0.2 g retention and plenty of accessories. The stock burrs suit espresso and work for drip. The filter burr he tried sieved well but lacked the spark of SSP multi-purpose, and it can't make 9-bar espresso. At $700 he wouldn't call it essential 13:00.
- In 2023, fitted with SSP cast burrs, it became his desert-island two-in-one. Filter is balanced and the espresso is smooth and clear, with more charm than 64 mm burrs give, perhaps 5% better. It costs about $1,000 all in, though, and it's big, loud and rattly 1:02.
Sprometheus's take
- In 2023 he found it gave commercial speed, nearly 3 g/s, at a prosumer price. The stock Italmill burrs give textured, balanced, forgiving espresso and filter. SSP HU burrs add fruit and complexity to espresso but are finicky and make filter brews stall. Retention is about 0.2 g, or 0.1 g with bellows. Vibration can shake the portafilter out, the rubber grips tear and the funnel rattles. It costs about $700 and makes the same cup as a DF64P with the same burrs, only faster 8:07.
Notes
- The stock burrs kept improving for about five months before levelling off 12:30. As it seasons the grind drifts coarser, so a new DF83 needs re-dialling from one session to the next 8:45.
Sources
- Kyle Rowsell: THE DF83: Big Burrs. Great Value! (2022-09-28)
- The Coffee Chronicler: DF83: a HUGE Improvement? (2022-11-20)
- Lance Hedrick: TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE?: Turin DF83 Review (2023-01-03)
- Sprometheus: DF83: Big Burrs On A Budget (2023-01-20)
- Daddy Got Coffee: Turin DF83 Review: 83mm coffee grinder on a BUDGET?? (2023-04-08)
- Kyle Rowsell: GIANT GRINDER SHOWDOWN: Sculptor 078S, Zerno Z1, Niche Duo, DF83 (2023-07-12)
- Lance Hedrick: ONE TO RULE THEM ALL?: Niche Duo vs DF83 V2 Review! (2023-09-29)
- The Coffee Chronicler: THE FINAL VERDICT: DF-Grinder Showdown (2023-11-09)
- Lance Hedrick: You Need To Season Your Grinder: Fact or Cap? (2024-03-31)
- Lance Hedrick: Grinder Tier List (2024-09-10)
- Asser Christensen, The Coffee Chronicler (website): Grind Size Chart & Database (2025-08-29)
Summarised in our own words from the creators' videos, with every point linked to the moment it comes from. Notchbook isn't affiliated with or endorsed by any of these creators, so please watch the originals for full context. Sources
Dialling in from here
- Sour, thin or fast? Grind finer. Why coffee tastes sour
- Bitter, dry or slow? Grind coarser. Why coffee tastes bitter
- Espresso: how to dial in. Filter: pour-over grind size.
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